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Endless Skin Issue - Poss Dally Rash?
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LylerDally



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Endless Skin Issue - Poss Dally Rash? Reply with quote

Hi all and happy New Year!

I was after some advice regarding my 4 year old boy’s skin. Since around August or so his neck has gone a rusty, pinkish colour especially the underside. His skin isn't sore, it isn't itchy and he doesn't scratch/lick it at all. The rest of his coat also started going really dull and greasy.
So off to the vet we went, vet didn't think it was Dally rash as it wasn't scabby so he needed Malaseb baths twice a week. The baths did nothing but obviously as I was bathing more often the grease stayed away temporarily.
As the problem remained I returned to the vet. He was given steroid injections of 'dexafort' twice a week. Again, this did nothing.
As the 'issue' bothers me more than my dog (as in it isn't itchy or sore, more just reoccurring staining), my vet was reluctant to do anything else.

So I did loads of research on Dal Bronzing Syndrome, Dally rash etc and switched him from Acana Lamb and Apple to Green Dog Trout and Veg (cereal free). I cut out all cereals and started giving him Yumega Plus and well as only home cooked, vegetable treats.
After a month or so on this diet, things had not improved.
Last week I took him to another vet for a different opinion. This time I was told to bath him twice a week in Coatex shampoo however he has now broken out in hives!!

He doesn't wear a collar at home, there has been no change to his routine/cleaners etc and no vet I go to seems to think his coat turning rusty is an issue!!
Next step they are suggesting is invasive allergy tests with a specialist but they keep telling me it doesn't sound like an allergy!

Along with the hives this colour has started appearing near his feet and there is a few specks on his back. The spots on his back look like Dally rash but there is no scabbing just the discolouration.

He is back off to the vets tomorrow but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or experiences of this?
The main issue is rusty coloured staining under and on his neck (which is not itchy or sore) and a dull, greasy coat.

Sorry to ramble but I'm going mad as I can’t seem to help my boy
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Spotalot



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,
May not be much help but my Daisy had this same type of discolouration at about a year old in the summer, she did however seem to have hives to begin with but no scabbing.
It coincided with her first season as well and vet felt it could be hormonal.

We to tried special diets and no treats ect...no difference.
then we thought it may be a pollen/grass allergy so only street walked for a month which was a nightmare and made no difference.

She also had piriton twice daily. helped a bit but no cure.

In the end I begged my vet for a course of antirobe antibiotics on advice from this forum.
The vet felt it would do no good, but it is one of the older antibiotics and good for skin problems. She said it would need to be at least 3 weeks course, but lo and behold she started to improve in 3 days,
The vet was very surprised but now has noted that it works well for her.

The brown staining however takes a while to go as it basically has to shed out and its a gradual process. I used to zoom groom her daily.

She has had a mild recurrence of it this summer but as soon as I saw the first signs I put her on Piriton and it seemed to get no worse.

We feed her on wafcol salmon on potato on the vets advice and her coat is fantastic so I wont change it now.

It may or not help your boy, but remembering how it feels you will probably want to give it a try. The only other thing I do is wash the dogs bedding in Fairy non bio and don't use fabric conditioner.

They do have advocate spot on monthly to keep any nastie bugs away as well.
Oh and in the summer I give her a rub down with a wet chammy after walks to remove any pollen.

Funnily enough we were only saying tonight how good she looks and her black spots shine as though they have been polished.
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LylerDally



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Spotalot,

Well the vet was a lot nicer this time but didn't agree to give me any Antirobe dispite my pleading!
She agreed to try him on 2 weeks on another skin antibiotic and if it didn't work she will give me as much Antirobe as I want Laughing

Had to start him on the Piriton too tho as the Coatex made him so 'bumpy'. Had to wash him in Malaseb to rinse off any traces of it, but now he has even more staining due to the hives. Its an endless circle!

Just wish I knew the cause so I can prevent this from happening again Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's it going, any improvement at all ?
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LylerDally



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well yes and no Laughing

I've changed his diet again; scrambled egg/porridge/banana for brekkie and Natural Instinct for dinner. His coat is still getting greasy but it isn't going yukky over night like it usually does.
He finishes the antibiotics on friday and his skin doesn't look any worse, but it is still stained. Understandably the stain won't dissapear over night and it will take a while to grow out, but his skin does still have a pinkish tint.

Come friday I don't know if I should take him back or just try his new diet a little longer to see if it is helping or if it is just the tablets.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A change in diet won't show any effect on his coat for at least 6 weeks, so you need to be patient before you know if its working, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The greasiness confuses me Confused
Especially if it builds up quickly after bathing with something like Malaseb......
Do you use a flea treatment....something like advocate or frontline spot on?
I tend to use non bio washing powder for dogs bedding.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually I use Frontline but since this started happening (so 2 to 3 months ago) I haven't used the stuff just incase as his neck was the most effected area. He certainly doesn't have fleas so thats another possible cause ruled out.
I use a non-bio cleaner too Confused

Yea his greasiness really bugs me. Just wish I knew what the cause was.
On a more positive note his skin has cleared up on the antibiotics (just doing my best to brush most of his stained coat out now Laughing )

So hopefully, we have cracked the staining thing, but now the greasiness? Its never ending!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious but have they ever done a skin scraping and looked at it under the microscope to check for fungus or bacteria?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they haven't Chris.
Both vets I have seen don't think his 'issue' is severe enough to warrant any further testing.
His skin used to be quite red and at first it did remind me of a fungal infection another dog of my had on her paws as a pup. He has just finished a 2 week course of Ceporex antibiotics and his skin is no longer red, its just his coat.
However I did notice a new, slightly discoloured patch on the top of his neck today Sad

At no point has his red bits gone scabby tho so I didn't think it was Dally rash. What to do, what to do!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of area is he mainly walked in.
Does he run through long grasses or woodland regularly?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This time of year we mainly stick to paths (on lead). When he goes off lead it is at our local football field, no woodlands etc as its too boggy in this weather!
The grass is short and is usually wearing either a fleece or coat (he hates the cold!)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The coat may not be helping. Younger dallies shouldn't need a coat unless they are sitting about in the cold and coats can make them hot and prevent air getting to the coat. If you regularly wash the coats it could also be the washing powder causing the problem
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He could be too hot and bathed too frequently; the more a dog is bathed the harder the skin works to re-waterproof the coat ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did think the overbathing would do more harm than good but both vets keep telling me otherwise.
Before the medicated baths I only bathed him once every 2 to 3 months.
But he was greasy before the overbathing.

As for the coats, he violently shivers, even in the house if he isn't wearing a jumper. We call him pathetic as even now he is sat in his bed, shaking like a leaf Laughing he isn't in a draft, has flecta-bed and plently of blankets yet he still shivers.
Another thing the vets can not put a finger on. Through trail and error we put it down to him being cold. He stops shivering once his equafleece shirt is on. We don't pander to it incase he is attention seeking. We even set up a camera at home whilst we were out and he would shiver most of the day so that makes me think it isn't attention seeking.
He has so many different coats they aren't washed too often. Plus this was at its worse before the cold weather so he wasn't wearing anything when this first started Sad
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