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Winflash
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: Junior handling at BDC shows! Reply with quote

Does anyone else agree that we should do junior handling at the club shows. The northern Ireland and north of england clubs both do

As some of you know I am now into Beagles and even though they only had a entry of 3 children it was still arranged and my daughter qualified for Richmond there.

I know my kids dont have a great deal to do at shows and most of the kids who come to dalmatian shows are really well behaved so couldnt we just give them their two minutes of fame.

I know Pat doesnt agree but perhaps we can persaude her by diplomatic means. Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally would love to see junior handling classes - a bit late for my own "litter" Very Happy who are now 21 and 18 - but it is great to get youngsters interested in the breed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Junior handling Reply with quote

It was the committee ( not me personally- I had 2 children myself who attended shows when they were young !) who decided to omit Jnr handling classes. The reason was because, despite appointing a specialist judge there were only one or two entries.

I didn't realise that club shows could qualify for Richmond. Perhaps if this was made known then it would encourage the club to include classes - and more children to enter.

We have, in our breed at least 2 handlers who became Junior handlers of the year when they were younger and I remember that they competed at shows in the normal classes, beating we decrepid handlers fairly and squarely Embarassed Embarassed Exclamation
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried to add a poll to this but I cant do it!!! Embarassed

I appreciate it wasnt you personally Pat but times have changed and there are significant amounts of children now who attend shows and I do think in general most of them are very well behaved.

Charlotte was very excited to qualify for Richmond mind you there is a difference between handling the saddest beagle in the country and Tigger.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that youngsters should be given every encouragement to compete amongst themselves as well as against the adults to increase their involvement and interest. I wasn't aware that the BDC show didn't schedule junior handling but am surprised, especially as all Club shows schedule various "extra" classes, some of which don't attract substantial entries (eg newcomers). To add to Winflash's comments about the NOEDC and NIDC, the All Ireland Dalmatian Club has Junior Handling scheduled for the annual show at the end of this month.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:39 pm    Post subject: Junior Handling Classes Reply with quote

Hi
We are very new to showing and have mainly become involved since our daughter said she would like to try Junior Handling Classes.

However even with our limited experience it has become obvious to us that very few Junior Handlers choose Dalmatians as their breed to handle. So we feel that every encouragement should be give to the children who choose to handle our lovely but challenging breed. Providing Junior Handling Classes at BDC shows would help the children who would like to show their Dalmatians in an enviroment where Dalmatians unique characters are understood and also with other children who face the same challenges.

My daughter has found that in most Junior Handling Classes, while children are very proffesional, most of the dogs being shown are very well behaved, tiny little fluff balls. The handling of these pint size dogs requires significantly less effort than the handling of a teenage Dalmatian whose is hell bent on 'playing' with the fluffy friends in the ring!

So yes please can we have the Junior Handling classes back at BDC shows even if the entry is initially low, the children need the encouragement. The development of the skills of these Junior Handlers will provide the skilled handlers of the future.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: juniors Reply with quote

my daughter(10) had great fun showing our puppy at the local ringcraft match night and would like to do more, It looked soooo wonderful to see them together, but the thought did cross my mind that when said puppy is a bouncy 12mths I don't think she would be strong enough to hold her, ah I hear you cry! puppy should be well trained by then........pigs might fly!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Basinga Razz

This is exactly the situation that we have. Our pup will be twelve months in a few weeks time, and yes he has been trained since he popped out of his mother.

Despite this, he has - literally - taken our 12-year-old daughter for a drag across a playing field. Embarassed The reason? To get to the ring-craft session that was in the hall on the other side. Rolling Eyes

The pure strength - and enthusiasm for life - of our chosen breed are the principle reasons why our kids need to be able to gain confidence in an arena where the traits are known and understood by the judge.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We bought Charlotte a beagle for handling for the same reason that the dog was too big for her. In the gundog classes you quite often see the larger dogs being handled by younger ones though. The last time Charlotte took Tigger into the ring the judge said it was the worse behaved dog he had ever seen Embarassed Consequently Tigger was litterally in the dog house for days. BUT she now handles a dog that my friends own in the breed ring for them as she shows the dog beautifully. Millie is not terribly well behaved but because she has got confidence now she does it.

I agree though that it would be far better for them to learn in a less informal atmosphere and might encourage more junior handlers to participate in what is a great past time. I was the proudest mum in the world when Charlotte came 2nd in the Junior Handling Semis at Richmond. Very Happy It would be nice if the club did help those who wanted to participate to do so especially as there is already a trophy for the said class Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Junior Handling at BDC Shows Reply with quote

Hi

Just to mention that we have written today to the Secretary of the BDC on the above subject. We hope that it may just raise the profile of the issue and may be get the subject raised at any committee meetings.

We don't want to give up because our daughter is determined to carry on handling our 'lively' (well that's one word for it Confused ) lad in the Junior Handling Classes (hat's off to her!!), so want to give her as much help as possible.

So come on BDC put on some Junior Handling Classes and come on Dalmatian Judges get in and do some judging of Junior Handlers (if you can!!?). Some judges with an understaning of the breed would be really welcome!!! Laughing

PS If anyone else fancies writing in I'm sure it will add weight to the case, the more the merrier as they say!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Junior handling at BDC shows Reply with quote

There is a section on this forum " messages to BDC committee".
Why not use it to let the committee know your views on the subject of Junior Handling??
I can assure you that the subject will then be raised and save you from writinng a letter!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: Jnr handling at BDC shows Reply with quote

At the committee meeting (held today) the possiblity of Junior handling classes was thoroughly discussed. It was agreed to include classes for Junior handlers at our forthcoming Open Show May 6th. The dog must be entered in another show class but entry in the Junior handling classes ( 2- one for each age group) will be free.
This will be an experiment to assess the popularity of these classes.
Further details will be printed in the schedule and in Spots of News.
We shall be appointing a judge ( hopefully an ex- junior handler)
So, go for it !!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant news, thank you to you all for being so open and willing to revisit the Junior Handling issue! Laughing

Come on all Junior Dalmatian Handlers please give this the support it so rightly deserves.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: junior handling Reply with quote

well I'm sure my daughter will be up to it, but I just hope the puppy will be. I will look forward to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may also be interested to know that the North of England Dalmatian Club will be holding junior handling classes at some of it's shows this year.

Please try to support handling classes where possible, as obviously these classes can only be held where there is sufficiant numbers to warrant a junior handling judge.

Besides, most of the juniors could teach us adults a thing or two, on the correct way to present and move your dog.

Good luck to you all this year,

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