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disconumber2



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: spots Reply with quote

My puppy is black spotted, both her parents were black spotted however 2 of her sisters are liver spotted. Anyone know why?
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Maggi



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfectly OK - both her parents must carry the liver gene and it is possible that she carries it too. Was one of her parents liver themselves? If so she will definitely carry it - if not it is a guessing game.
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disconumber2



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both Poellas parents were black spotted however on her dads side her grandmother is liver spotted and her great, great grandmother from her mums side is liver spotted. there seems to be liver spotted in all the litters from both sides though.
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Jeangenie



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's perfectly normal. The recessive liver gene can be carried for many generations without showing itself until it meets another 'hidden' liver gene.

In my last litter the stud dog was black spotted, as had been his parents, grandparents, great-grandparents all the way back to the fifth generation when his gt-gt-grandmother was liver. Nobody could recall any of the siblings on that side being liver either. My bitch was liver, and lo and behold, the litter was half black puppies and half liver puppies! The liver gene had been carried down the sire's family for five generations without manifesting.
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PurdyWurdy



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purdy was black spotted, so was her mum, her mums mum, all her siblings and so was her dad.

She had a litter of 12 pups, 11 black and one liver. the sire was black so i guess they carry the gene and it randomly appears.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For that to have happened, both Purdy and the sire must have carried the liver gene. It often pops up after a few generations and take speople by surprise.
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